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demon king of the east, midnight ([personal profile] unrequite) wrote in [community profile] citynet2023-08-11 02:51 pm

text; @The Seventh Crown of the Seventh Demon King;

[ Four lines of text. ]

This is written in Victorian.
Kore wa Laterano-ji Higashi-go de kakareteimasu.
This is written in Higashinese.
This written by in Yanese. (Might be bad. Sorry.)

Please do let me know how many of these sentences you understand.


[ The first is in what would be considered Earth English, the second is what would be known as Japanese written in Romaji, but he's called it "Laterano-ji Higashinese". The third was written in Japanese, the fourth was written in some rather poor Chinese. He's called the languages themselves clearly incorrect names. What's more important, though, is that only the second one should parse as phonetic, and should only be understandable to fellow Japanese speakers. The rest are in whatever language is most understandable to whoever reads it. Funny, huh? This city sure is strange! ]
justscribing: (❖ 11)

@Alhaitham

[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-14 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
[Maybe two minutes after Kaveh has made sure that Alhaitham has seen this.]

1, 3, 4 are all perfectly readable to me, but not in the original language you described.

The second one is the same as the third but using an alternate alphabet, isn't it? It resembles Inazuman phonetically, but the writing system is different.
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[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-14 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
And I've never heard of Higashinese, but that's easily explained by us being from different worlds entirely.

I understand the idea of it. The common script of Teyvat is used similarly. What's interesting to me is that this place doesn't seem to regard that as a natural form of language that should be translated. But why is that a limitation?
Edited 2023-08-14 09:08 (UTC)
justscribing: (❖ 65)

[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-14 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's right. Given we don't seem to have a lot of control over what is being translated for us, it seems like an oversight to be able to bypass it simply by changing the script. Especially if the phonetic transcript of Higashinese is something you were familiar with.

[In that case, it couldn't be an issue of it not being a form of language that someone in the City didn't know before.]

How common is it for people to communicate to each other in Higashinese using the Victorian script? Could you hold a conversation with the same nuance?
justscribing: (❖ 71)

[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-15 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Even if the reader would easily misunderstand, the writer would know what they intended when they wrote it. If there is a limitation on what can be translated based on that, we can surmise it probably doesn't function just by reading our thoughts.

We could be talking through an external filter, then.
[Which means intentions can get much more easily lost the more different two languages are. But also, it means they may have an easier time manipulating it.]
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[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-15 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
The grammar also looks off to me, though it still translates into Sumeran.

So is this only for our benefit, or someone else listening in as well?
justscribing: (❖ 06)

[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-16 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
"Nothing is yours. It is to use. It is to share. If you will not share it, you cannot use it."

Though it seems more people got mementos than tools to use. And a city with limitless and free resources removes a lot of sources of conflict between people. Still it's possible it could be both for our own unity and so a third party is capable of following our conversations with ease.
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[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-16 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps they don't want to interfere with what they've set up here, or they don't trust us not to harm them after revealing themselves.
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[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-16 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I'd agree.

[Someone, or someones, pulling this much off as too much power to fear the rats they've trapped. And it all feels very experimental. But he's missing the right pieces to be able to put the hypothesis to the test.]
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[personal profile] justscribing 2023-08-17 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
[Consider: you can be both.]

Is it? Are you hoping they'll be nice enough you can convince them to just let you go?